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I'm pretty sure Lenovo offer a choice of Linux distros as a dual boot OS.
If you know your way round the command line, you wont have any problems installing Linux as primary OS, or dual boot with windows.
Here is a really cool post about securing a laptop, and using Linux as an OS
https://www.grepular.com/Protecting_a_Laptop_from_Simple_and_Sophisticat...
Dell are making their XPS 13 ultrbook Ubuntu compatible for developers, looks very cool, but trying too much to be a macbook air!
For me, I still like VMWare, as I can mess things up big time, and not have to reinstall my whole OS. And have Photoshop, Ubuntu, Gnome, Mint, Cinnamon, Drupal Distros, all a click or two away.
So many toys! and no worries if I break them!
Hope that helps
The other Simon
An alternative to NFS is AFP (via Netatalk and Avahi on Ubuntu). I've found AFP works a bit better.
Well, since it was just an appeal for feedback, I would say it shouldn't have been posted to Drupal Planet. But, now that there are all these amazing comments, it is certainly Drupal Planet worthy ;)
I will try to consolidate all this awesome feedback into a coherent post and then that will be fine on Drupal Planet... but there may be some multilingual Drupal posts first.
I vote that it is appropriate for Drupal Planet.
Another vote for Lenovo... they must be doing something right ;)
I returned the Toshiba as it was within the 30 day return window at Best Buy. I was impressed at how easy it was to return it, actually. I was expecting some fuss because my husband bought it and he was out of town so I didn't know if they would let me return it or not. My husband still has a Toshiba (same type I got) and does find it somewhat annoying but I think he's going to keep it since he thinks he'll get used to the quirkiness.
I dislike Toshiba computers immensely.. Even with Windows, they make things too hard. Sell it and get a Lenovo for Linux.
Thanks for the details... yes, I agree that trying them in the store is the best option for now (unless I can borrow one for a few days to really give it a workout ;) I found the trackpad on the Macbook Pro I tried in Best Buy to be fine as far as I could tell... but I was standing up and not using it in a "real life" situation. I'll go back and try some more though.
If there's one thing I love about my MacBook (late 2008 aluminium MacBook) it's the trackpad.
Back in 2008 it had the same lead over the field as Usain Bolt
In 2012 it has the same lead over the field as Usain Bolt ;)
(i.e. it used to be in a completely different league, but is still a very strong competitor).
Having said that, you're clearly fussy about trackpads, and your experiences will vary from everyone else's, so go to a computer store that has display models and try them out.
OS-wise I like Mac OS, but am perfectly happy with Windows too. It runs well on a Mac so even if you decide you want to run Windows, it's still worth buying a MacBook to do so (financial considerations aside).
Cool, just learned about it above (see previous comments :) Thanks!
Wow, it's amazing how much different options are there for Drupal... but, since our community rocks, I guess I shouldn't be amazed :)
Awesome! Sounds like the Lenovo is a great machine :) I've heard this from several folks. Good to know it is so fast with the VMs... that is definitely a concern. Thanks for the details... I like the VM+git+linode syncing... I would likely do that as well.
Here's another story of a Windows/Linux => Mac convert! I wonder if there is anyone out there that has used a Mac for awhile and went the other way (to Linux or Windows). Perhaps I need to do some research! The main reasons I see for *not* using a Mac are cost and fixability (for newer hardware). I'm not sure there are any other reasons though.
I also ran linux as my primary desktop environment for several years. (Fedora then Ubuntu), and was a die hard Windows guy before that. I was definitely anti-Apple.
However, I recently started at a company that provided me with a MacBook pro, and I have been shocked at the smoothness of the experience. The hardware is great, the tools available for Mac just 'work better'. I run VMWare to run the actual Ubuntu drupal development environment.
Highly recommended.
I recommend you to also check out https://www.drupal.org/project/drupalpro
From the project page:
DrupalPro Development Desktop started in May 2012 as the 7.x-2.x branch of the Quickstart project. However, after a lot of work and a beta release, the Quickstart founder decided Ubuntu 12.04 Unity was not the way forward for Quickstart. I believe Unity is a more productive workspace than Gnome 2. Regardless, more choice is good. :)
There is another version of quickstart as well, that runs ubuntu 12.04 called drupalpro, it has some extra things that quickstart doesn't have as more recent development has gone into it, but it uses the unity desktop.
Hi,
I recently bought a Leneovo Thinkpad i-7 laptop with Windows 7 installed.
Using VM's in particular the drupal quickstart project, I can set up as many linux instances as I want.
I currently have quickstart/ubuntu set up for Drupal projects, which I sync to my linode servers using Git.
I also have a mint linux setup, which is for tinkering, nodeJs, Ruby, etc, safe in the knowledge that I wont bork up my development environment.
I can't speak for other makes of laptop, but the Thinkpad runs VM's at amazing speeds, allowing you to dedicate as many processing cores and Ram as you wish. The i-7 Ivy/bridge processor does not struggle at all, the battery last hours, and has a very high build quality.
Hope that helps you. Thanks for the post, was good to see your experiences. Let us know what you go for in a follow up post!
Regards
Another Simon
Here are some I found:
System 76: https://www.system76.com
Ohava: http://www.ohava.com/
Zareason: http://zareason.com
and more at:
https://linuxpreloaded.com/
Thanks! I've heard that Vagrant is very nice for development but I haven't researched it yet. So many tools, too little time ;)
Running the VMs from an external SSD sounds interesting... hadn't even thought of that as an option. I guess there are pros and cons to that but certainly worth thinking about :)
I know Mac users who love their SSD for fast boot times... definitely worth considering as well.
I agree that Macs are expensive... though the people I know who have "converted" from Windows to Mac are all very happy and never want to go back... why is that? I never hear of people going the other way (Mac => Windows). Once you drink the Koolaid, then you are hooked for life, I guess ;) I guess this is actually one reason I am hesitant to get a Mac!
Wow, never heard of it before! That's pretty awesome... my boys have a Windows box with not much on it so maybe we can test it there to see how it works. Thanks for the comment :)
You make some good points, thanks!
I'm only recently finding that their are vendors who specifically sell Linux laptops. I haven't done research on them so don't know if this is a good way to go or not. Any vendors you suggest?
I've heard that Lenovo makes good laptops. The Best Buy geek squad guys also recommended Samsung and Asus. I've read that Asus has good reliability but I don't know much about Lenovo and Samsung for laptops.
I agree that Macs are pricey. If they were the same price as a PC, then I guess I'd have one already... ??
I must admit, though, when typing on the one at Best Buy tonight, the keyboard felt pretty darn nice. I don't know why, but it did.
But, I am worried about the vendor lock-in and the hardware not being supported down the road. That is a very valid point and something to strongly consider.
The only way I'd consider staying on Linux for my main OS at this point would be to get a laptop from a Linux laptop vendor (due to the touchpad driver issues mentioned in my post). If the touchpad had been working well in Linux on the new Dell or new Toshiba, I wouldn't have been looking at possibly going to Windows or Mac. I would imagine that the Linux laptop vendors have sorted this out (how, I don't know... their own drivers?). But, I imagine the vendors are all online and I wouldn't be able to go down to a store and try it out. I'll have to do some research on that.
I used F-Spot for photos on my old Dell laptop. I'd like a better way to tag photos and share them with Picasa and Flickr with the tags.
I like Gimp and Inkscape okay. I've used Photoshop and Illustrator in the past. I only do photo processing and graphics stuff occasionally now but would like to do it more.
As for Open/Libre Office vs MS Office, I have another comment above about that... agree that the free versions are fine for basic stuff.
I had not heard of Pencil... I'll check it out.
Note that part of my quest is to have tools that are highly compatible with my new business partner's tools and she's on Mac and uses MS Office.
Yes, I use (and have used) both Open/Libre Office and Google Docs extensively... they are fine for simple stuff, but if you want things to look "just right" or want to open a docx, xlsx, etc. file, these options don't often work well. In particular, I found that Libre Office would crash some times when open the "x" version of MS Office files (e.g. docx).
For example, my business partner and I were going to give back-to-back Drupal talks at a local Drupal user group meeting. My partner created a Powerpoint presentation and sent it to me so I could use it as a template for my talk (same colors, header, template slides, etc.) and Libre Office kind of mangled it. I could read the slides but the colors/text/formatting/etc were not very nice. I've found the same issues with Word docs.
So, I agree that these free tools are great for general communication, but if you want something polished, then unfortunately they just don't cut it.
It's funny that you said:
...I haven't looked back ever since.
as that is the exact phase used at the Santa Cruz Drupal user group meeting tonight by someone who switched from Windows to Mac. :)
I did try out the Mac keyboard at Best Buy after I returned the Toshiba and, I must say, that the keyboard felt very nice. Also, the touchpad didn't seem to be bothered when my hand was touching it while typing.
I did try the "right click" at the user group meeting (using 2 fingers) and that didn't work very well for me... but I guess you just have to train yourself for some of it.
Hmmm....
My guess is that I'd prefer being in the Ubuntu VM to do my stuff and not use Windows tools as I mainly use the command line when possible ;) But, nice to know those options are available, thanks!
Wow, thanks for the detailed response... this is good stuff. I was at a Drupal user group meeting tonight (thus, the delayed responses to all the comments!) and there were 5 Macs, 1 Windows, and 1 Linux machine. One Mac user bought her Mac refurbished (it is a 2011 machine) and suggested doing that. I do like the NFS file sharing... that is very handy. I am definitely not interested in the retina models for the reason you give... I had read an article about how those machines aren't easily fixed if there are issues (unlike older Macs). I wish there was an easy answer!
I will definitely look into Vagrant if I'm using VMs! It sounds like the way to go... (I use vim and like the command line :)